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General Powerlifting => Universal Topics => Topic started by: norsman on October 29, 2014, 01:40:07 AM

Title: sheiko app
Post by: norsman on October 29, 2014, 01:40:07 AM
So it's coming soon but is there a ballpark idea? Before new year? Within next month?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on October 29, 2014, 05:41:16 AM
So it's coming soon but is there a ballpark idea? Before new year? Within next month?

Should be out in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on October 30, 2014, 12:02:52 AM
excellent, i had sheikodroid on my old phone but it doesnt work on my samsungs5

will the new one have the over 80kg prog on it ?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on October 31, 2014, 03:44:23 PM
There are several new programs on there that Boris made specifically for the app.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on October 31, 2014, 10:59:18 PM
superb :)
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Dave on November 01, 2014, 07:33:37 AM
I want this NOW, if not sooner.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2014, 01:20:37 PM
??!!!?!?!
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 15, 2014, 03:46:28 PM
Probably next weekend.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: norsman on November 16, 2014, 02:19:49 AM
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 16, 2014, 07:47:04 PM
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha

I've forgotten to take a picture of my excel file and remembered in the car half-way to the gym a few times.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Dave on November 17, 2014, 11:06:34 AM
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha

I've forgotten to take a picture of my excel file and remembered in the car half-way to the gym a few times.

Spreadsheet on phone FTW.

Will the app bring out any new bench only material?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Chreiz on November 17, 2014, 12:14:17 PM
Am i the only one with a good enough memory to remember the whole workouts  :P?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: RussianBear on November 17, 2014, 11:01:10 PM
Really looking forward to it.

In the moment I have a printout (i usually have) and have it saved at my smartphone. I am not going to forget my programme - that's for sure!
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 18, 2014, 04:56:02 AM
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha

I've forgotten to take a picture of my excel file and remembered in the car half-way to the gym a few times.

Spreadsheet on phone FTW.

Will the app bring out any new bench only material?

There aren't any single lift specialty programs yet. There are lots of things that we'd like to add but there would be no app to release if we waited until it had everything already. This one is 1.0 and there will be upgrades.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: LeftoverCrack on November 18, 2014, 12:31:27 PM
Will the app be released for iOS, Android or both?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: SUBZ on November 18, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
Why don't you just use the excel programs on the forum and an excel reader on your phone? Works great ;)
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: danjh2705 on November 18, 2014, 10:33:54 PM
I export pages 12-14  i.e the 3 cycles as a pdf file to my phone using Dropbox sync and use Adobe to open it.
Only have to do it once in 12-20 weeks!
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 20, 2014, 02:27:09 PM
The app will be a bit more friendly to use than the spreadsheets. Modifications are easier, you can add notes easily during the workout for each lift, watch video demonstrations of special exercises, and so on. This is also only the first incarnation. A lot more is possible now that we all carry computers in our pockets. This is going to get really good.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Dingle on November 20, 2014, 10:35:09 PM
Just got the app! looks awesome cant wait to put it to good use after Oceanias! One thing that I have picked up on so far is the minimum % is 50% so when I go to adapt the advanced maximum load for example and I want to make one of the squats into from squats It means I have to start at 50%.

Should you possibly make a App suggestions or problems thread also just an idea.

Love your work.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 21, 2014, 03:07:14 AM
Just got the app! looks awesome cant wait to put it to good use after Oceanias! One thing that I have picked up on so far is the minimum % is 50% so when I go to adapt the advanced maximum load for example and I want to make one of the squats into from squats It means I have to start at 50%.

Should you possibly make a App suggestions or problems thread also just an idea.

Love your work.

You're right. There's two new boards now. One for requests and another for app issues. If you wouldn't mind posting about percents and anything else you encounter over there it would be great. That way I have my to-do list all in one place.

Thanks and good luck at Oceanias!
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on November 21, 2014, 06:20:04 PM
I cant find it on android only the old version, is it a different name?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 21, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
I cant find it on android only the old version, is it a different name?

It's only on iOS right now.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on November 21, 2014, 06:52:56 PM
I cant find it on android only the old version, is it a different name?

It's only on iOS right now.

arghhhh , just as I changed from iphone to android lol
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on November 21, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
is there a date for android release?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 21, 2014, 07:34:37 PM
is there a date for android release?

Not yet. It'll probably be a while.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: ZR on November 21, 2014, 10:38:52 PM
What did you use to build the app with? I might be able to give you a hand in porting it to droid/windows if you'd like.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on November 21, 2014, 11:52:04 PM
cant believe its not on android i been looking forward to it for weeks  :-[
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 22, 2014, 03:16:55 AM
What did you use to build the app with? I might be able to give you a hand in porting it to droid/windows if you'd like.

Objective C. I've looked into porting services. But since I used about two dozen libraries it's not so straight forward.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: norsman on November 22, 2014, 11:22:00 PM
cant believe its not on android i been looking forward to it for weeks  :-[

I know...just got rid of an ipod touch that i had so that i could access all sorts fo things and not be limited. Video editing software is crap on android for example.

I might get an iphone 4s as a beater phone to use this.

Will this be compatible with a 4s?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on November 23, 2014, 05:51:02 PM
It is but might be a bit more sluggish.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: norsman on January 03, 2015, 12:14:05 AM
The universal 4 day seems to correspond exactly to the medium load advanced on the app. However i'm on prep 2 week 5 day 4 and the third exercise calls for "Deadlift w/chains off boxes, bar is 10-12cm below knees" on the spreadsheet but the app just says deadlift with chains.

Did the app just not transfer over precisely or is it a mistake in the spreadsheet? Deadlifting with chains off blocks did seem a bit strange.  12cm below knee is roughly where the bar would normally be i think...
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on January 03, 2015, 03:51:26 PM
It should be w/chain off blocks but the title bar doesn't have enough space to write it all out so it changed for the app.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on February 09, 2015, 08:39:16 PM
any date yet for android?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on February 10, 2015, 06:30:08 AM
Don't know the exact date yet but it's in beta testing now.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Blitzball on February 18, 2015, 12:11:49 PM
Is there going to be any difference between the iphone one and the android one? I mean besides the operating platform.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on February 18, 2015, 02:19:48 PM
There are a few differences but the programs and example videos are the same.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: SUBZ on February 28, 2015, 11:40:49 AM
Would really like to try out the app for android. Is there a way to become a beta tester? :)
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on February 28, 2015, 04:37:28 PM
You can download it tomorrow.  :o
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on February 28, 2015, 10:28:33 PM
yes!!  8)
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on March 01, 2015, 01:02:54 AM
there is a bug when opening the app , you need to press back for it to start up.

question regards programs , they are named program 1 , program 2 etc etc , is there a quick way to determine what is which ? like 37 , 32 etc ?

looks good
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 01, 2015, 03:20:35 AM
You can download it tomorrow.  :o

Just to be sure is it:

Sheiko Powerlifting Training
pushApp Srl
£8.70

Right?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 01, 2015, 03:25:08 AM
Yup
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 01, 2015, 03:33:23 AM
Just bought it.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on March 01, 2015, 03:43:58 AM
how is working for you?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 01, 2015, 03:49:30 AM
how is working for you?

It's definitely a work in progress, most features are buggy. At the moment it's not much more than the training programs as noninteractive pictures. But I'm hoping the functionality will be improved in incoming updates.

Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: mava on March 01, 2015, 02:02:08 PM
Hello!

I just downloaded the sheiko app. Which order should I do the porgrams in?

My 1RM: s:120kg, bp:110kg, dl:160kg
187cm and 82kg
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 01, 2015, 03:20:46 PM
Just based on your number I would suggest the large load intermediate cycles. Make sure to consume a caloric excess as well through the cycles.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 01, 2015, 03:21:04 PM
how is working for you?

It's definitely a work in progress, most features are buggy. At the moment it's not much more than the training programs as noninteractive pictures. But I'm hoping the functionality will be improved in incoming updates.

Actually I've had a more in depth look, the routines allow you to work through each session and each set. I'm not sure if you can adjust the sets/reps say for example if you didn't make the reps that day.

I've seen the customisation option for producing your own routines based off one of your choice that looks good.

What I'd like to see is

1) Some explanation of the programs, who are they aimed at, what do they even mean in specific terms (small/medium load etc). A tutorial section built into the App would make sense given that it is supposed to be used mostly in isolation from online spreadsheets etc

2) Creating my own profile, seems to be in the works already.

3) Ability to delete custom routines which I've made during testing the App.

4) The "can't download because you haven't paid" bug gone and a smoother entry screen.

5) Ability to change the program on the fly, during the session if something isn't feeling right there should be the ability to adjust sets/reps or delete a set etc

All in all I'm very happy to support this forum and Sheiko as he's given me and PL a lot over the years so I've bought the App. Please take my pointers as constructive not criticism.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on March 01, 2015, 11:37:54 PM
just had an update there and it opens fine now :D

still trying to figure out what program is which
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 02, 2015, 01:01:41 AM
just had an update there and it opens fine now :D

still trying to figure out what program is which

Yes good call, downloaded that too.

I think some further information on each program would be helpful.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 02, 2015, 04:23:53 AM
So the programs are sorted by volume. Check this to see the volume/experience relationship:
http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=311.0 (http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=311.0)

Now experience is not how many years training but is instead accomplishment based. Check this to see your level:
http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=3.0 (http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=3.0)

A good general approach is to start with medium load and see how that works for you. From there it should be easy to tell if you need to adjust volume up or down.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 02, 2015, 01:23:41 PM
So the programs are sorted by volume. Check this to see the volume/experience relationship:
[url]http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=311.0[/url] ([url]http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=311.0[/url])

Now experience is not how many years training but is instead accomplishment based. Check this to see your level:
[url]http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=3.0[/url] ([url]http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=3.0[/url])

A good general approach is to start with medium load and see how that works for you. From there it should be easy to tell if you need to adjust volume up or down.


Robert,

I'm just coming back from injury and time off, I'm at about 180/140/220. Previously 225/170/280. At 93kg raw.

What would you recommend?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 02, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
In your case you would expect to need some time to ramp up volume and for your maxes to come back at a decent pace in the process. I'd do a few beginner cycles since they are low volume and you test your maxes more frequently. It would seem to match up with your current needs.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 02, 2015, 04:38:46 PM
In your case you would expect to need some time to ramp up volume and for your maxes to come back at a decent pace in the process. I'd do a few beginner cycles since they are low volume and you test your maxes more frequently. It would seem to match up with your current needs.

Thank you Robert.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 02, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
Sure.  ;)

I like to think of the programs like tools that can be used in many ways. I think Boris does as well. He's previously advised that he hopes people would use his programs creatively.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 02, 2015, 08:27:23 PM
Sure.  ;)

I like to think of the programs like tools that can be used in many ways. I think Boris does as well. He's previously advised that he hopes people would use his programs creatively.

I generally respond better to high reps and lower intensities, I have been tempted to run a program using Boris' templates but substituting perhaps 3 reps for every 5% reduced.

So for example:

4 sets of 5 @ 75% would become 4 sets of 8 at 70%

The reason I picked 3 reps for every 5% is that generally that is how my reps to percentages work out in relevant intensity ranges (70-100). For example I generally know that 90-93% is my 3RM, 85-87 is my 5RM and 80-83% is my 8RM.

Just something I'm considering, any thoughts appreciated.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 03, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
Can you outline a sample day?
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Luigi Papino on March 03, 2015, 01:53:31 PM
how is working for you?

It's definitely a work in progress, most features are buggy. At the moment it's not much more than the training programs as noninteractive pictures. But I'm hoping the functionality will be improved in incoming updates.
I guess I do not understand: why do you say that most of the features are buggy?
What problems are you having?

The training programs are not "non-interactive images", in fact you can create custom programs and change them to your liking.

Edit: I see now your next post. Yes they are all feature in my TODO list for the next release
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 03, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
Can you outline a sample day?

So for example let's look at Week 1, Day 1 of the 4 Day Program. Currently using an imaginary SQ/BP maxes of 100kg it is:

Front SQ: 30kg x 4, 40kg x 4, 50kg x 4, 4, 4
Bench Press: 50kg x 5, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2
Squat: 55kg x 3, 65kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2

If we were to apply the intensity decrease and reps increase it would become:

Front SQ: 25kg x 7, 35kg x 7, 45kg x 7, 7, 7
Bench Press: 45kg x 8, 55kg x 7, 65kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5
Squat: 50kg x 6, 60kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5

I do respond better to higher reps and lower intensities, on paper this actually looks like something I would respond to. I would like to get some feedback on it though, for example when the percentages get higher like 85+ would I be better off adding a different number of reps perhaps fewer like 2?

Thanks.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: power gym on March 03, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
the app for android don't  go
alway crash
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 03, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Can you outline a sample day?

So for example let's look at Week 1, Day 1 of the 4 Day Program. Currently using an imaginary SQ/BP maxes of 100kg it is:

Front SQ: 30kg x 4, 40kg x 4, 50kg x 4, 4, 4
Bench Press: 50kg x 5, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2
Squat: 55kg x 3, 65kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2

If we were to apply the intensity decrease and reps increase it would become:

Front SQ: 25kg x 7, 35kg x 7, 45kg x 7, 7, 7
Bench Press: 45kg x 8, 55kg x 7, 65kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5
Squat: 50kg x 6, 60kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5

I do respond better to higher reps and lower intensities, on paper this actually looks like something I would respond to. I would like to get some feedback on it though, for example when the percentages get higher like 85+ would I be better off adding a different number of reps perhaps fewer like 2?

Thanks.

Ultimately, do whatever works. Personally I'd keep the percentages as they are and adjust the reps since it's far simpler. But I can't really say anything if what you do works. I've found that you can play around with the rep ranges a bit and still do the exact same style of training as long as you don't go beyond 3 reps shy of failure. So if you fail on the 12th rep at 70%, you could do sets of 8-9, 4-5 @ 80% and so on.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Galactus on March 03, 2015, 09:59:27 PM
Can you outline a sample day?

So for example let's look at Week 1, Day 1 of the 4 Day Program. Currently using an imaginary SQ/BP maxes of 100kg it is:

Front SQ: 30kg x 4, 40kg x 4, 50kg x 4, 4, 4
Bench Press: 50kg x 5, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2
Squat: 55kg x 3, 65kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2

If we were to apply the intensity decrease and reps increase it would become:

Front SQ: 25kg x 7, 35kg x 7, 45kg x 7, 7, 7
Bench Press: 45kg x 8, 55kg x 7, 65kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5
Squat: 50kg x 6, 60kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5

I do respond better to higher reps and lower intensities, on paper this actually looks like something I would respond to. I would like to get some feedback on it though, for example when the percentages get higher like 85+ would I be better off adding a different number of reps perhaps fewer like 2?

Thanks.

Ultimately, do whatever works. Personally I'd keep the percentages as they are and adjust the reps since it's far simpler. But I can't really say anything if what you do works. I've found that you can play around with the rep ranges a bit and still do the exact same style of training as long as you don't go beyond 3 reps shy of failure. So if you fail on the 12th rep at 70%, you could do sets of 8-9, 4-5 @ 80% and so on.

Yes that's good input, keeping it almost on an RPE type of thing (although I've never done it that way) but just to keep a few in the tank.

I find I tend to overdo things quite quickly, and since I'm a little older now, I thought reducing the intensity to match the increased volume may be a sensible route. But yes, whatever works. I will have to actually experiment in the gym and not just on paper!
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: stt816 on March 28, 2015, 08:44:51 PM
Robert I'm 145 body weight current lifts are
S340
B230
D475

What would you suggest doing on the app at first all are in lbs...coming from candito 6 week program

Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: lanidrac on March 28, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Has anyone else had a hard time purchasing this app from the google play store? Every time I try to purchase it and click to pay with paypal it tells me that an error has occured.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 29, 2015, 03:05:04 PM
Has anyone else had a hard time purchasing this app from the google play store? Every time I try to purchase it and click to pay with paypal it tells me that an error has occured.

First that I've heard about it.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Robert Frederick on March 29, 2015, 03:06:17 PM
Robert I'm 145 body weight current lifts are
S340
B230
D475

What would you suggest doing on the app at first all are in lbs...coming from candito 6 week program

Try the medium load 4-day program and see how it goes for you.
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Luigi Papino on March 30, 2015, 03:04:54 PM
Has anyone else had a hard time purchasing this app from the google play store? Every time I try to purchase it and click to pay with paypal it tells me that an error has occured.

Any further detail on error?
Maybe just a temporary error with Play store?

You can try to purchase form a desktop pc and then download from smartphone
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: stt816 on April 10, 2015, 07:03:03 AM
cannot speak on the purchasing of the app on the play store, however I do have the app.

It is buggy at times and needs work. Definitely not as nice as the iOS app. Needs updates to be good
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: Luigi Papino on April 10, 2015, 10:16:10 AM
Today I just started to fix it :)
Next week will be dedicated entirely on Sheiko app
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: georgeslaraque on April 11, 2015, 02:05:17 AM
To be honest, I fucking love the app. 
Title: Re: sheiko app
Post by: JJ on July 06, 2015, 01:25:59 AM
small bug ( app stopped) on the android app when you try to rename the prep/comp cycles.

I title mine in months so they go to the top of the programs and quicker to use.