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General Powerlifting => Universal Topics => Topic started by: Robert Frederick on April 06, 2014, 10:03:25 AM

Title: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Robert Frederick on April 06, 2014, 10:03:25 AM
As of the 1970s, the following ranks classify athletes of the USSR (listed in descending order of value):

Merited Master of Sport of the USSR, (Russian: заслуженный мастер спорта СССР, abbreviated as "ЗМС", sometimes translated as Honoured Master of Sport of the USSR), equates to international champion who has made valuable contributions to the sport

Master of Sport of the USSR, International Class (Russian: мастер спорта СССР международного класса; abbreviated as "МСМК"), equates to international champion

Master of Sport of the USSR (Russian: мастер спорта СССР; abbreviated as "МС"), equates to national champion

Candidate for Master of Sport of the USSR (Russian: кандидат в мастера спорта СССР; abbreviated as "КМС"), equates to nationally ranked player

First-Class Sportsman (Russian: спортсмен 1-го разряда), equates to regional champion

Second-Class Sportsman (Russian: спортсмен 2-го разряда), equates to state champion

Third-Class Sportsman (Russian: спортсмен 3-го разряда), equates to city champion

First-Class Junior Sportsman (Russian: спортсмен 1-го юношеского разряда)

Second-Class Junior Sportsman (Russian: спортсмен 2-го юношеского разряда)

Third-Class Junior Sportsman (Russian: спортсмен 3-го юношеского разряда)

Each of these titles was awarded only for results on the official competitions.

You can find your current equipped classification in the chart below. It says:

Powerlifting (three lifts)
National Unified Sports Classification
Valid between 2014-2017
Approved by order of the Ministry of Sport #715
September 6, 2013

(http://i.imgur.com/j8lgYr4.jpg)

Edit: For raw lifters the following tables are from Ukraine.

(http://i.imgur.com/XQBVntdl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/uMzSjyBl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QHizn4Tl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/KoaiJeAl.jpg)



Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Sami on June 05, 2014, 04:21:53 PM
Are those Raw or equipped totals?
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Bench Polkov on June 05, 2014, 04:27:30 PM
I'm very sure those a raw.

I will try and find the equipped totals too.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Robert Frederick on June 05, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
I thought so too. Turns out they are equipped.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Bench Polkov on June 05, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
Really?

Damn, I'm better than I thought  :P
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Robert Frederick on June 05, 2014, 04:50:59 PM
Yeah, I think there was a change a couple years back that made these a little more generous.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Chreiz on June 05, 2014, 05:59:44 PM
Hmm yes, with the old chart I once had the requirements were much more harsh (and more realistic, IMO).
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: DRY on June 05, 2014, 06:02:21 PM
Hmm yes, with the old chart I once had the requirements were much more harsh (and more realistic, IMO).
I agree, I am only 2.5kg away from MS on that chart but I am at least 50kg away from being nationally competitive
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: IPF Bencher on June 05, 2014, 06:05:31 PM
Is it possibly to find such a chart for bench press specialists?
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: BuccioniPL on June 05, 2014, 07:35:15 PM
These are equipped totals, and MS and more is very very tough to be reached...))
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: BuccioniPL on June 05, 2014, 07:38:07 PM
By the way, past chart was easier. Last year -83 was 732.5 and 825 for MS and MSIC respectively.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Surge on June 08, 2014, 06:32:05 AM
I thought so too. Turns out they are equipped.

Still, IPF equipped is not the usual 3 ply circus stuff people associate with the words "equipped"  :D
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Boris Sheiko on June 09, 2014, 09:49:50 AM
There are no classification charts for raw (three lifts) and bench press (raw and equipped) in Russia yet.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: IPF Bencher on June 09, 2014, 04:12:39 PM
There are no classification charts for raw (three lifts) and bench press (raw and equipped) in Russia yet.

Thank you for the response.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Chreiz on August 03, 2014, 03:16:04 PM
Thanks for the update on the RAW chart Robert.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Robert Frederick on August 03, 2014, 03:29:19 PM
Thanks for the update on the RAW chart Robert.

No problem.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Bench Polkov on August 04, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
Raw chart! Sweet!
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: thesecondrei on August 09, 2014, 10:24:34 AM
Dang, the raw chart seems kind of...low? 
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: DivanoPL on August 23, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
Mmmm..... I've 150kg of bench raw in 105kg...... Class II.... I go to the gym for some bench pressing ahahah
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: equinox-hyrule on June 09, 2015, 09:07:11 PM
Is there a classification chart for bench press with equipment?
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: BigRed on March 13, 2016, 09:38:54 PM
Hello chaps,

I recently came across this classification table, which I personally find more accurate....those other tables look very generous.

The information came from RTS
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Detox on September 26, 2016, 12:24:13 AM
So if I weigh 83Kg and my total is 460 I am in class II? Kinda confusing so much tables  :D
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: RussianBear on September 26, 2016, 04:57:47 PM
So if I weigh 83Kg and my total is 460 I am in class II? Kinda confusing so much tables  :D

If your total is raw you're Class I. Find the table: "Powerlifting, Three lifts, Raw, Men (Ukraine Federation, IPF)
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Detox on September 27, 2016, 04:57:04 PM
Thank you for your reply!

One more question where I did not find any information about is what does (if I use the 3-Day-Split under 80Kg) #37 #30 and #32 for instance stand for?
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Detox on September 27, 2016, 04:59:04 PM
P.S: Only found this information:

"We previously were presented with a 29-30-31-32 model which some described as a Preparation (29), Accumulation (30), Transmutation (31), Realisation/Peaking (32) scenario.  In fact a number of lifters described 32 as too much of too little when performing it after 8 weeks of moderate training (eg. 29-37-32 or 37-37-32)."
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Robert Frederick on September 30, 2016, 05:12:30 AM
I'm not sure where the numbers came from but they were never put together as an official sequence by Boris until this forum came along.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: RussianBear on September 30, 2016, 09:42:18 PM
I'm not sure where the numbers came from but they were never put together as an official sequence by Boris until this forum came along.

Although I am not sure I have read that the numbers refers to the page in one of his books where the programmes came from... But Boris would have to confirm this himself I think.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Detox on October 03, 2016, 09:39:31 PM
I'm not sure where the numbers came from but they were never put together as an official sequence by Boris until this forum came along.

Although I am not sure I have read that the numbers refers to the page in one of his books where the programmes came from... But Boris would have to confirm this himself I think.

That would be great because I found this very confusing. Especially for beginners who train with Sheiko's style.
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: RussianBear on October 03, 2016, 11:35:56 PM
I'm not sure where the numbers came from but they were never put together as an official sequence by Boris until this forum came along.


Although I am not sure I have read that the numbers refers to the page in one of his books where the programmes came from... But Boris would have to confirm this himself I think.


That would be great because I found this very confusing. Especially for beginners who train with Sheiko's style.


You might find this interesting:
http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=15.0 (http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=15.0)
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Detox on October 04, 2016, 12:00:45 AM
I'm not sure where the numbers came from but they were never put together as an official sequence by Boris until this forum came along.


Although I am not sure I have read that the numbers refers to the page in one of his books where the programmes came from... But Boris would have to confirm this himself I think.


That would be great because I found this very confusing. Especially for beginners who train with Sheiko's style.


You might find this interesting:
[url]http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=15.0[/url] ([url]http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=15.0[/url])


Thanks brother!

I already read that. What I also found out is when you find your class you're in (in my case ClassI) you can chose workouts with up to 1000 reps which is also calculated in the sheets in Excel. So a workout by Sheiko with almost 600 repetitions is for beginner and up to 2000 repetitions for advanced as far as I know!
Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: Will on January 09, 2017, 01:36:27 PM
Hello chaps,

I recently came across this classification table, which I personally find more accurate....those other tables look very generous.

The information came from RTS


I agree. With my 475 total @ 88 kilo I would be a class 1 lifter ? (regional champion .. not likely)

OTOH, the "RTS chart" would put me 35 kilo short of a class III lifter ... which hurts my ego.

The chart here: http://fpr-info.ru/razr_norm.htm (http://fpr-info.ru/razr_norm.htm)
would make me a class II lifter.

Title: Re: Russian Sports Classification System
Post by: pwrlftr925 on June 08, 2018, 10:21:38 AM
Hey guys I coded an app that determines your class based on your total, bodyweight, and units of mass. It also takes into consideration weather you are an equipped or raw lifter. Check it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sheiko.example.patrick.sheikoclassification .