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RussianBear

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Re: Fedorenko prep and comp cycle
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2017, 08:43:58 PM »
If one have the appropriate level for running this program, one should also know this program shouldn't not be run with inflated maxes :)
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Re: Fedorenko prep and comp cycle
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2017, 03:16:53 PM »
Looks like alot of fun.
Thinking of trying out the bench-part at some point.

After reading Polkovs comment about considering lower volume and higher intensity for bigger guys (I'm competing in -105), this might be a way to go.

I'm currently running a 4-days CMS bench-template, that I have converted to 5 days (same program just spread out).

When comparing the two, even if there are fewer lifts in the Fedorenko-program, there are alot more lifts af 75-80% mainly due to no pyramids. And then there are alot more assistance-work (Board, Incline, Military etc).

Does anyone else have experience running this program?

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Re: Fedorenko prep and comp cycle
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2017, 03:02:33 PM »
So, comparing the benching parts, the CMS/MS bench template you have should have an average of 1.5 lift in 90+ per week, whereas the Fedorenko program only has an average of 1 in 90+ per week and that is even though is has a more steep taper than the CMS/MS bench.

The CMS/MS bench template have an average of 138 lifts per week while the Fedorenko program only has 105 but makes up for this by having a higher average intensity as you say (70.8% against 67.6%).

Both have pin press/board press/bench lock out training. The CMS/MS bench has a lot of more of it though whereas the Fedorenko had a lot more military press. I know Boris have written about this. One should really take this into account too and if one does so, the average could be higher in the CMS/MS bench but is depending on if one does board, pin, slingshot, floorpresses etc as bench lock-out. I know you probably also know this, but it is worth pointing out.

Are you going to do only the BP parts or also (some) other parts of the program?
if so, then please let us know how it goes :)
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Re: Fedorenko prep and comp cycle
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2017, 09:58:26 PM »
So, comparing the benching parts, the CMS/MS bench template you have should have an average of 1.5 lift in 90+ per week, whereas the Fedorenko program only has an average of 1 in 90+ per week and that is even though is has a more steep taper than the CMS/MS bench.

The CMS/MS bench template have an average of 138 lifts per week while the Fedorenko program only has 105 but makes up for this by having a higher average intensity as you say (70.8% against 67.6%).

Both have pin press/board press/bench lock out training. The CMS/MS bench has a lot of more of it though whereas the Fedorenko had a lot more military press. I know Boris have written about this. One should really take this into account too and if one does so, the average could be higher in the CMS/MS bench but is depending on if one does board, pin, slingshot, floorpresses etc as bench lock-out. I know you probably also know this, but it is worth pointing out.

Are you going to do only the BP parts or also (some) other parts of the program?
if so, then please let us know how it goes :)
I have compared the two in almost any possible way and the differences are pretty clear.

I almost never take the exercises as gospel. I usually see them as a exercise-slot, to fill in something meaningfull, depenting on my overall weaknesses and how far I'm from comp. It could be targeting hypertrophy in specifik muscles, or weakpoint at sertain points of the movement etc.
Also (maybe I'm of to the dark side here), when I look at relative intensity, I compare to my max of that given movement not the comp lift (unless thats the movement in question).
For example it makes no sense to me to if I do some reverse band stuff to base it on my raw max, the RI would seem higher than it is.

If I do it, it will only be the upperbody part. Yhere is no way I can handle the volume in all 3 lifts and my SQ and DL numbers are way to small for this cycle.